Debating a Libertarian Socialist
You: different from socialism who wants to force business owner to give up their means of production.
Stranger: I mean it’s either starve or be employed. That’s sort of forcing you. And in the US it goes further and is often sell your labor or be denied medical care. What advantage is there to the working class to have these business owners?
You: well there is a third option, you can work for free and set out to create the means of production. why can't you do that? you don't have to be employed or starve bud
Stranger: It’s a bit unrealistic to say every person can create a means of production in order to support themselves. But yeah working for yourself is a way to avoid having your labor exploited.
You: well that is what it means to build the means of production and yes it is incredible difficult I agree, so why would you want to discourage that?
You: I think you are reaully upset at reality and the fact that our universe is chaos.
Stranger: Why not have means of production owner by the working class to allow more people to avoid having their labor exploited?
You: I mean there a co-ops all around, I think what you don't understand by your own admission. it is really shitty to work for free and suffer to create the means of production that is why it is mostly individuals who attempt that in the pursue of wealth.
Stranger: It’s a bit much to say I’m upset with the universe because I want an economic system that favors the working class.
You: well it is you think you have a right from not starve and from not getting hurt. It is as funny to think that reality would care less about a fantasy where pain and suffering is optional...
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