Why collectives can't compete


Stranger: The various nazis flat earthers anti Vaxers etc prove some people can’t actually be reasoned with
You: yes I agree with your assessment and thus why I debate with you that seeking a system that requires everyone to be reasonable just leads to oppression.
Stranger: We already have oppression. We let billionaires amass more wealth than they can ever spend while literal kids go into debt to be able to eat lunch
Stranger: It’s a late stage capitalism dystopian he’ll really
Stranger: Not letting insurance company middle men take in billions in profit is communism says the right wing so we have to let people lose their whole lives if they get sick
Stranger: People can’t get approved for a mortgage so they pay even more for rent
Stranger: Wages stay , prices go up
You: I understand your frustration when you put it that way I am sure can be used to poison the minds of lots of people. However, I beg you to look at the past and see that what we have is by no means perfect. but we have for the most part got rid of kings and divine right to govern. Capitalism breaks the power into a good amount of the population. better than a king controlling a whole country. We have also got rid of slavery. now we must be very carefult not to go back there in attempts to bring about utopia
Stranger: Again the need to conflate collective ownership of a few necessities with totalitarianism just demonstrates to me that you have no real criticism
Stranger: “We can’t tax Jeff bezos at the same rate as a garbage man and use the money to feed impoverished children bexause then it’s communism and slavery is back”

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