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You: we call that the means of production

Stranger: There is negotiating power given through government connections.

Stranger: "you are wrong, business is not about the competence to negotiate. it is about the competence to create services and goods." As I've already said this is part of the negotiating process. Your model is already accounted for and you aren't offering anything new that isn't already accounted for.

You: I am not sure what makes you think that is accounted for? I disagree that business are about negotiation. that is only during the sales process. business are way more than the sales process

You: you are only a small part of businesses.

You: the most important part is the means of production and the competence to create as superior product

You: your idea that the negotiation during the selling process is what business you have a very minimalist understanding of what businesses are.

Stranger: "the most important part is the means of production and the competence to create as superior product" Hopefully yes, but I am sure you've seen lower quality products win out before because of good advertising campaigns, correct?

You: no they only fail faster

Stranger: How about apple. Any tech nerd knows they provide an inferior product to basically any of their competitors.

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