Market Socialist Debate


You: not at all they are here on the own free will
Stranger: the owner is Useless. Why make him buy means of production and put workers on shit pay when the workers can buy it there self and get the full fruits of there labour.
You: yet that doesn't happen lol. mostly because the means of production cost a lot more than you think, it cost two decades of my life with no certantinty that I woujld be successful
You: that is why the majority of business owners are not cooperatives lol
You: because the workers are not interested in giving up two decades of their life with lwo to no pay
Stranger: it doesn’t happen in mass beacuse no country is socialist? also worker cooperatives are in thousands in most countries so it’s a proven way of working
You: then you should just wait and the workers will eventually own the means of production right not need to try to reform if that is unavoidable...
You: sad truth it isn't lol business owners stilld omiante the business world
Stranger: well done ? but tbf capitalism is outdated. It needs infinite growth on a finite planet. It’s bound to dissaper in 200 years odd time once class consciousness is about
You: well we are workign on it teh same people you love to hate are already buildign space ships to go get more resources from out space. the race is going bud lol you are just not aware of it

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