Group Thinking Mentality
                            You:  I can understand your point to be angry and I don't mean to make a straw man out of your point. I am just worried and pointed at an example of how dangerous group thinking can become.
                        
                                                
                            You:  I am.
                        
                                                
                            Stranger:  Okay, what is your problem (if any) with group thinking and it's dangers
                        
                                                
                            You:  my main problem is that universal agreement on humans is utopian. anything that attempts it will only result in the degradation of society and the bloodshed of the young.
                        
                                                
                            Stranger:  that's all encompassing for humanity, I don't believe in : oh we are all humans at the end of the day and what we share is our humanity and that will be the ultimate expression of us as a people. I think a group of people is best represented in a national form.
                        
                                                
                            You:  I don't know, I wouldn't go pass my own brain, I guess that is why I am a libertarian. I am just not arrogant enough to think I can decide for another human being
                        
                                                
                            Stranger:  I think that if you have a society of truly free individuals, doing what they want in a way which they desire (not violating the NAP of course), you have a lost group of people who cannot even form a coherent society
                        
                                                
                            You:  I agree, anarchy is as utopic as group thinking ideologies. we will probably just follow natural law. strongest wins.
                        
                                                
                            You:  I mean survival of the fittest would be more accurate
                        
                                                
                            Stranger:  if that would be the case group thinking will prevail like it always has, if the strongest wins
                        
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