Animal suffering vs human freedom
Stranger: you can't really disagree
Stranger: most animals from the supermarket are tortured in their life
You: well torture is not the defition of suffering I disagree with your premise
Stranger: torture involves suffering
Stranger: by definition
You: well yes but that is not what you are saying you said that animals suffer and that is in fact torture. that is very different to say that suffering is involved during torture. you are been intellectually dishonest.
Stranger: the vast majority of animals available for purchase in the form or meat have been tortured in their life
Stranger: torture involves suffering which should be avoided when possible
Stranger: and it is possible
Stranger: so you should do it
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